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2667649 - FAQ on CO-PA issues in S/4HANA Cloud

Symptom

  1. Is there an app available to maintain the operating concern ?
  2. Is it possible to activate costing based profitability analysis in the cloud ?
  3. Which are the apps available for CO-PA reporting ?
  4. Which is the configuration app which could be used in order to define Accounts for "Splitting the cost of goods sold" ?
  5. Which is the configuration app which could be used in order to define derivation rules of characteristics ?
  6. Is the attributed Profitability Segment functionality available in S/4HC ?
  7. In certain cases PSG (PA Segment) cannot be selected for WBS settlement rule. Only cost center and G/L account are available. Why ?
  8. Is it possible to deactivate profitability analysis ?
  9. How are bill-to-party and ship-to-party populated ?

Environment

  • Controlling (CO)
  • SAP S/4HANA Cloud

Resolution

  1. Is there an app available to maintain the operating concern ?

There is only one operating concern (A000) available in cloud. This account based operating concern is fixed. Cloud customer does not realize that an operating concern is available. He does not have the possibility to maintain operating concern A000. The environment is generated automatically after each upgrade to a new release and if necessary after import of a hot-fix collection. During upgrade to new cloud release the cross client environment is generated automatically during upgrade but the client dependent environment will be generated automatically with the first call of any CO-PA relevant transaction. A cloud customer does not have the possibility to regenerate manually the operating concern environment. It is not possible to have a user defined operating concern in parallel. There are no template operating concerns.

  1. Is it possible to activate costing based profitability analysis in the cloud ?

It is not possible to use costing based CO-PA in S/4HANA Cloud. It is also not planned that costing based CO-PA will ever be available in S/4HANA Cloud. We plan to extend account based CO-PA in cloud so that similar features are available for account based CO-PA like for costing based CO-PA (as in on premise) but which features and when these features will be implemented depends on the feasibility.

  1. Which are the apps available for CO-PA reporting ?

There are many apps for reporting but the main app for COPA reporting is Market Segments - Actuals (Cloud).
In addition, you have the Project Profitability and Product Profitability reports.

  1. Which is the configuration app which could be used in order to define Accounts for "Splitting the cost of goods sold" ?

COGS split customizing is pre-defined and delivered in the cloud and it cannot be changed by customers.
The source and the target accounts are fixed as shown in the attached document (Cloud COGS Split)
In the future releases it is possible that a configuration UI (FIORI App) for COGS split could be made available.

  1. Which is the configuration app which could be used in order to define derivation rules of characteristics ?

Derivation strategy is pre-defined and delivered in the cloud for fixed characteristics of operating concern A000 and it cannot be changed by customers. The pre-defined and delivered derivation strategy is shown in the attached document (KEDR). The classic derivation tool is not available for maintenance in the Cloud, even though running in the background for the fixed characteristics of operating concern A000.                                                                                                                                                                                                        From 1902 you can add custom fields to profitability segment and in addition you can derive values for these new custom fields via BAdI. You can use key user app Custom Fields and Logic in order to add new custom fields for Profitability Segment (Business Context Accounting: Market Segment) and then you can use Business Add-In Market Segment Extension Fields Substitution in order to derive values for your new custom fields.

  1. Is the attributed Profitability Segment functionality available ?

Yes this functionality is available. Content is shipped in order to activate attributed profitability segments automatically in almost all scenarios. However it is not possible to view or customize this in the front-end.

  1. In certain cases PSG (PA Segment) cannot be selected for WBS settlement rule. Only cost center and G/L account are available. Why ?

It depends on which SAP Best Practice is being followed.

    • In Project Financial Control (‏1NT‏), you can maintain a single settlement rule to PSG at top-level for projects, which are created with profile “project with revenue”. Each actual cost posting (also to lower level WBS elements) then will be attributed with these characteristics. Hence, customer does not need to settle these projects (it is not allowed).
    • For projects created via best practice Customer Project Management - Project-Based Services (‏J11‏), the characteristics are automatically derived via the assigned sales order item data and hence a maintenance of settlement rules is not required and not possible.
    • For all internal projects, that is projects in A18 or projects in 1NT with project profiles other than “project with revenue”, settlement rules to PSG are not allowed. For the internal CPM projects, you can only assign cost center and G/ L account. For these projects, there is no market segment information available.

      8. Is it possible to deactivate Profitability Analysis ?

          No. This is not possible.

      9. How are bill-to-party and ship-to-party populated ?

          Bill-to-party and ship-to-party get populated during creation of the PA segment from the respective KOMK values as they are mapped in the interface table TKEZU. In case of                          ship-to-party in addition there is a derivation rule to populate it with customer in case it does not get populated from KOMK.

Keywords

Projects with Revenue, settlement, Overhead Projects, 1NT, J11, A18, project profile, Profitability Segment SGS, Best practice, CPM, COPA , KBA , CO-PA , Profitability Analysis , Problem

Product

SAP S/4HANA Cloud all versions

Attachments

KEDR.docx
Cloud COGS Split.docx